# Charging Scoop from Notecarrier A **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware\ **Created:** [October 17, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/charging-scoop-from-notecarrier-a/2379 "2024-10-17T16:26:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![johnedstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@johnedstone](https://discuss.blues.com/u/johnedstone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/charging-scoop-from-notecarrier-a/2379/1 "2024-10-17T16:26:14Z")
**Two Main questions here** Is it possible to charge the Scoop from the Notecarrier A when it is powered by USB? Can you imagine a scenario using a Notecarrier A and a Scoop, and a Solar Panel,e.g [Voltaicsystems P124](https://voltaicsystems.com/1-watt-6-volt-solar-panel-etfe/), where - you can power the Notecarrier A from the USB and - at the same time charge the Scoop, and - when there is no USB Power then the Solar Panel will power the Notecarrier A, and - the Solar Panel will also charge the Scoop I am considering using this item from [Adafruit charger, bq24047](https://www.adafruit.com/product/4755) to accomplish this, along with this [item from Voltaic](https://voltaicsystems.com/W035) to split the power coming in from USB and send it to the Notecarrier and the bq24047 charger. Lastly: do you think the Scoop is comparable to this [Voltaic Systems LIC-C117](https://voltaicsystems.com/LIC-solar-charger/)? ---
**Author:** ![RobLauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.blues.com/roblauer/32/1567_2.png) [@RobLauer](https://discuss.blues.com/u/RobLauer)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/charging-scoop-from-notecarrier-a/2379/2 "2024-10-18T14:55:09Z")
Hi @johnedstone , You shouldn’t need any other hardware, as what the Notecarrier A provides is just what you need. You can plug a power source into the USB connector, plug the Scoop into the `LIPO` JST connector, and plug your solar panel into the `SOLAR` JST connector. Done. And yes, it looks like that LIC from Voltaic is very similar in form and function to the Scoop. Rob ---
**Author:** ![johnedstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@johnedstone](https://discuss.blues.com/u/johnedstone)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/charging-scoop-from-notecarrier-a/2379/3 "2024-10-19T19:58:05Z")
I understand the configuration you described. Yes, that is the simplest. However, in one scenario, I’d like to charge the LIC while powered by USB. And in other scenario, I’d like to power with USB, so I can get an alert when my power provider is off line, as well as have the option to later take the box outside and power with solar without reconfiguring. (And in ether case have the LIC charged) I hope that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![RobLauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.blues.com/roblauer/32/1567_2.png) [@RobLauer](https://discuss.blues.com/u/RobLauer)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/charging-scoop-from-notecarrier-a/2379/4 "2024-10-21T15:48:34Z")
> [@johnedstone](#): > > However, in one scenario, I’d like to charge the LIC while powered by USB. Yep, this is the default behavior. > [@johnedstone](#): > > And in other scenario, I’d like to power with USB, so I can get an alert when my power provider is off line, as well as have the option to later take the box outside and power with solar without reconfiguring. (And in ether case have the LIC charged) Are you saying you want to “fall back” to USB power when solar/LIC is unavailable/depleted? If so, that is not possible, as the Notecarrier will always default to USB power if connected and available. ---
**Author:** ![johnedstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@johnedstone](https://discuss.blues.com/u/johnedstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/charging-scoop-from-notecarrier-a/2379/8 "2024-11-11T19:50:38Z")
I apologize, I haven’t clearly defined what I am trying to do. Let me begin again. I’m describing two distinct applications using the same configuration, so that I can deploy the device in either one of two environments. **The first case: the blues device will report to the Notehub when USB power is on/off, that is, it will have some kind of battery backup** It will be … - powered by USB, - have the USB charge the LIC (e.g. Scoop) - and when the USB power fails, then the LIC will take over and capture the “USB off/on” alert. And, the LIC will continue to power the device until the USB power is restored **The second case: the blues device is powered by LIC and charged by solar.** - There is no USB required. Here is a picture of the current working solution ![configuration_v2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/blues/original/2X/1/105a38c393b67daaa61e05554352132d849c6bd7.png) You will note that in this configuration: - the blues device can be powered by either USB or LIC - the LIC can be charged by either USB or Solar - the LIC is being charged by the `load out` of Adafruit’s bq24074, and - the LIC `out` is connected to the blues device `lipo` connection - Note: this configuration as been tested with [Voltaicsystems.com](http://Voltaicsystems.com) P124 and P126 solar panel