# Starnote/Notecard Time while on NTN

**URL:** <https://discuss.blues.com/t/starnote-notecard-time-while-on-ntn/2171>\
**Category:** Notecard API\
**Created:** [June 11, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/starnote-notecard-time-while-on-ntn/2171 "2024-06-11T02:41:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![rberkelm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@rberkelm](https://discuss.blues.com/u/rberkelm)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/starnote-notecard-time-while-on-ntn/2171/1 "2024-06-11T02:41:32Z")

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I have a few questions relating to Time while on NTN. The [Starnote best practices](https://dev.blues.io/starnote/starnote-best-practices/) suggests that we include “\_time” in the template to indicate when the Note was created. Imminently sensible! But where do we get this time from? A “card.time” call? But that requires a sync (so expensive)? Is there a better way of getting the time when sending NTN notes?  
Also, does “card.attn” still work if the Notecard has be out of cell range for weeks/months or does it get the time from Starnote syncs?

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**Author:** ![RobLauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.blues.com/roblauer/32/1567_2.png) [@RobLauer](https://discuss.blues.com/u/RobLauer)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/starnote-notecard-time-while-on-ntn/2171/2 "2024-06-11T13:36:41Z")

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Hi @rberkelm,

There is an RTC on the Notecard that tracks time - and time is initially set when the Notecard first connects to Notehub via cellular or Wi-Fi (which is a requirement when using Starnote). So when you include `_time` it’s stamped from the Notecard itself.

Rob

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**Author:** ![rberkelm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/0ea827/32.png) [@rberkelm](https://discuss.blues.com/u/rberkelm)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/starnote-notecard-time-while-on-ntn/2171/3 "2024-06-12T02:10:21Z")

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Thanks Rob. In other words Notecard does not get or update its time from the Starnote? I think I might have to incorporate my own RTC into my Starnote design as I can’t see my customers remembering to sync at home before they head out bush.

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**Author:** ![RobLauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/discuss.blues.com/roblauer/32/1567_2.png) [@RobLauer](https://discuss.blues.com/u/RobLauer)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://discuss.blues.com/t/starnote-notecard-time-while-on-ntn/2171/4 "2024-06-13T14:43:51Z")

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Hi @rberkelm,

To clarify, if the Notecard is power cycled at any time **after** making its initial connection to Notehub over cell/wifi AND it’s also in NTN mode using Starnote, then it will use Starnote to connect to Notehub to update its clock.